Hi Friends, This is a live conversation that took place in Facebook which includes 4 people and specially one on one between a Hindu who don’t want to be abused and a Christian gentleman who inserted himself to spread negativism as way to convert and attract people to Church. Their identities are blocked for privacy purpose. SD is person who stands for Hinduism when the Christian (IC) tries to bad mouth about Hinduism and the Swamy Vivekandha and two more (G & YG) are two different people who took part in conversation. This happened to our children too all the time in the schools and colleges. Christian missionaries take pot shot on deity worship of Hinduism. Also you will notice the Christian man will refer to Bhagawat Geetha all time to attack from the Secular territory. Read the conversation and comment your thought. We need to equip our kids too how to handle the situation when their teacher or fellow student or their friend parent try to spread their religion by polluting our kids mind. Hope you will enjoy and comment your feedback and questions. God Bless.
IC: Swami Ji, HOW CAN ANY ONE COMPARE A LIVING GOD WITH AN IDOL? AS YOU CALLED GOD “PARAMATMA’, DOES IT HAVE ANY FORM, SHAPE OR COLOR? (ROOP, NA, RAKH NA RANG KACHU, THREE GUN TE PRAB BHIN, THSE BOJAYE NANKA, JESE HOVE SO PARSUN) BABA NANK. IN OTHER HOLY SCRIPTURES, IT IS ALSO CONSIDERED AN UNFORGIVABLE SIN TO COMPARE ETERNAL (INFINITE) GOD WITH AN INERT (JHARD) MORTI OR EVEN A MORTAL (FINITE) MAN? HAVE YOU OR ANY ONE ELSE EVER SEEN GOD? WHAT LORD KRISHNA SAID TO ARJUNA WHILE IMPARTING THE DIVINE-KNOWLEDGE TO HIM ,DURING THE GREAT WAR OF MAHABHARATA THAT’S ALSO RECORDED IN THE HOLY B.GITA 2:23, THAT THE ALMIGHTY GOD/BRAHMA IS FORMLESS. IGNORANCE IS SIN WHILE PREACHING FALSEHOOD IS A GREATER SIN. RADHEY RADHEY.
G: So true..
SD: IC Are you trying to cheat by calling Bagawath Geeta all the time? If you know and read well the same, you guys would have never converted. You mean to say, you know more than #SwamiVivekandha who was not only a saint but a patriot who worked for Bharat and against conversion process of Christian Missionaries. If deity worship as per your smart thing, is not smart, then what this man below is doing?
IC: SD, To quote Holy B.Gita is called cheating in Hinduism? Why do you always compare with other religions. Why don’t you stick to your own first, while refusing to accept the teachings of Lord Krishna and the Scriptures in the Holy B.Gita. Why don’t you read the scripture quoted in the Gita before you declare your fake Swami righteous over the Holy word of Lord Krishna.
SD: You are calling pope as fake, because he is . IC, I know what Bhawat Gita says, and that’s why we didn’t get converted to Christianity like many guys did for money and post. Your intelligence is minor to call names on Swami Vivekananda. Dont slip away from answering what this guy is kissing
IC: If you knew B.Gita, SD, you will neither compare with other religions nor try to spread falsehood. Again you are hiding behind what other people are doing while refusing to accept & showing respect for the Truth contained in the Holy Book of Gita? What kind of Hindu one could be who does not believe the scared word of lord Krishna? These are not biased or personal views rather it was quoted right from the Holy B.Gita and you are showing disrespect for it. If you hate Christians so much, what are you doing in their country, go back and defend the conversion in India?
SD: IC, Before you bad mouth Hinduism and saints why can’t you have the guts to say what this pope guy is doing? is he kissing the puppy?
IC: SD, don’t show ignorance, if some one is committing sin, does it mean we should follow him? To quote Holy Scriptures is not considered bad mouthing as you invariably do? Wake up?
SD: Again Bad mouthing me, Do you have courage to answer my questions? !) Where in my post you see hate for Christianity for you to enter in with your agenda? 2) If you are so much against of Hindus worship way, is the pope kissing the puppy? You cannot get away with false accusations
YG: In earlier yugs, most of the human beings were at a very high spiritual level. With the passage of time and due to decline of the spiritual level, a need was felt for the humans to provide a form to the God to develop the connection with the formless God. The divinity of the formless God is invoked in the murti through the ritual of “Pran Pratishtan”. It is due to this divinity of the formless God in the murti that the average human being in Kaliyug is able to make connection with God.
IC: Agreed, this is the philology behind the Kaliyuga Murti-Puja but, can an imperfect man (mortal/finite) invoke life (Pran Pratishtan) into a stone? Lord Krishna Himself revealed mankind that, He is eternal and nothing is beyond Him, nothing can kill Him, burn Him, drown Him or Air can harm Him. Now look at the human beings who are the element of God, still vulnerable & cannot bear or escape all this, then how can a Murti/idol offer or protect a person while being inert and helpless itself. Many people might have seen an abandoned Murti in the field being misused by dogs. If it cannot protect itself how can it save others? We believe in a living God, who is the Creator, Sustainer and Destroyer at will. The Holy Books are loaded with this TRUTH. How can anyone relegate the most High and the most Divine God (Infinite) to the level of not even a mortal/finite but an absolute inert/Jard? This is an unforgivable sin in the Holy Scriptures but in ignorance it’s being ignored. Was there any temple at the time of Satyug, Lord Rama or Lord Krishna? Rituals & Pujaris are simply taking advantage of the innocent people to satisfy their own greed. However it’s a personal choice. Please don’t take this as a criticism since none of it supports any human views rather based upon the Holy Scriptures which reflects Holy spoken word of Lord Krishna. Have a peaceful and happy day. Radhey Radhey.
SD: IC, when your guy is kissing, thats fine and when we do, then you have issues? This is video about a well respected Hindu saint and his teaching and you put your nose into it to influence people with #SickUlar blanket and now complaining about my hate? pl see yourself in the mirror
IC: SD, you are all wet and talk stupid. what I have to do with any one kissing or pissing? If you hate Christians so much, I suggest you leave their Country before someone have your immigration invoked as being done with other fanatics? Don’t bring BJP Fanaticism here, go back and defend your fanatic beliefs against conversion in India. I hope you understand the message. Have a nice day.
SD: IC, you never answered why the pope is kissing that statue? Is he spreading lie? Never try to insult Hinduism for conversion purpose. We never insult others but for that we are not going to be quiet. You never had guts to oppose the cheating work done by Christian missionaries in India but talking like a cheese about others?
IC: SD, What language do you understand? Why are you asking me? You can also ask the Pope yourself. When you are spreading hatred against Christians, in my opinion it’s no less than what the ISIS is doing against the western World. Your site is contributing nothing for the good of society as on record, except spreading hatred either against Islam or Christianity or Sikhism? Hindu fanaticism is eventually going to be the downfall of BJP. Wake up SD before it’s too late. No one is your enemy. Have a nice day.
SD: IC, in my post anywhere it mentions Christianity. Its about our guru and his teaching. Now say me, who converted this topic to hate and agenda? you cannot get away with #SickUlar lies. Does my post say anything about Christianity?
IC: You have nothing else excerpt hatred for Christians one way or the other and now you have even involved the most revered saint the Pope. Look how you have depicted him above? Does it need any proof? The whole world is reading your prejudices and hatred against other religions and got to stop it for your own good. This is your choice.
SD: Don’t run away. Two questions. 1) Do you see any hate for Christianity in my post? if so explain. 2) If Idol worship is wrong, then what pope is kissing? Explain. Don’t spread lies
IC: SD, Are you so naive? the whole world is reading your low down mentality against other religions. People can read above. Idol worship is wrong and sinful according to the Holy B.Gita (Lord Krishna) and this has nothing to do with other religions. The whole world knows the Christians do not believe in IDOL WORSHIP like Hindus nor it’s acceptable in Islam or Sikhism. Are Scriptures in the Holy Gita are lies? Someone might straighten you out soon for your hatred for others? Choice is yours.
SD, IC, Again Bad mouthing me, Do you have courage to answer my questions? !) Where in my post you see hate for Christianity for you to enter in with your agenda? 2) If you are so much against of Hindus worship way, is the pope kissing the puppy? You cannot get away with false accusations
IC: This is more than hate & insulting Christians by showing a fake photo of the Pope. It is your habit of spreading hatred and falsehood. If you believe in the Holy B.Gita, you would not display such ignorance and stop always find fault in other religions. Watch out?
SD: What watch out buddy? you can insult our gurus and we should sit and listen to your BS? Respect goes either way. Hope you understand. My post has no insult for you and you started first and be man enough to get it back
SD: IC, stop insulting Hindus thinking they are puppets no more and explain where in this video is christian hate in my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT4yu1eu2Ns&t=27s and what was necessity for you to bad mouth Bharath’s Gurus. If you do that and expect us to quiet then you are living in myth
Message From Swami Vivekananda on Why Hindus…
IC: SD, you have defamed the entire Christian World by putting up a fake photo of the most revered Saint the Pope. Secondly you have no respect for the Holy Gita by denouncing the word of Lord Krishna. You have been warned many many times in the past against hatred for other religions but, you are ignoring it. One should respect every religion except exposing falsehood for the betterment of mankind. Again Saunders, no use playing with fire? It’s your choice. Have a nice evening.
SD: Common IC, you don’t talk about Bagawath Geetha as you know you will be following sanatan dharm. Never answer the questions. You have license insult Hindus and spread mis information? you expect us to take it easy when you bad mouth our Gurus. Be man enough to stand and debate and answer. Don’t try to come in a video and try your conversion technique. You too have a good evening and never forget that respect is earned not given. Tolerance word should be replaced by mutual respect. This is our stand and hope it clarifies. God Bless
IC: To Preach from the Holy B.Gita is a blessings for any one. Radhey Radhey.
SD: Talking about Pope too is a blessing to anyone. God Bless